Is this even possible?... reasonable?

["Just Jess"]

I joined Obesityhelp.com last year when I first began looking into bariatric surgery... I just activiated my membership today - because I cannot get enough information lately... As someone said earlier, I am craving it!!!!!!!!

I went to one of the links on my surgeon's website through obesityhelp - and it is meant to project a POSSIBLE weight loss expectancy for you... but mine seems completely unreasonable!!!!!!!! Although I would LOVE LOVE LOVE for it to be true - I wanted to see what you all thought... I do understand that this is just ONE TYPICAL outcome - but the word typical makes it seem so possible, but I feel it's insane to even HOPE to do this well that quickly.......... please let me know your thoughts!

The webpage for my doc (just an FYI) is: http://obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/bariatric+surgeon+profile+David+von+Rueden+htg.htm l (http://obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/bariatric+surgeon+profile+David+von+Rueden+htg.htm l)

OK - the graph will not show - just a bunch of cryptic text, and I have no idea what that "key" info means.... but I've included everything that went through - check it out:


Your BMI and Goal Weight Results

Your weight is 310 pounds. Your ideal body weight is 138 pounds. Thus, this
means your "excess" weight is about 172 pounds. Bariatric surgery might help
you lose 90% of this excess weight, meaning you might lose 155 pounds.

If you lost 155 pounds, then you would end up weighing 155 pounds. 155 pounds
would thus be your "goal weight" for bariatric surgery.
Typically bariatric surgery patients lose this amount over the course of 12 to 15
months, with slight fluctuations and possibly slight regain after that. Below is a
graph of how your weight might change after surgery.
Your current BMI is 52. Click here (http://obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/forums/PlannerResults.phtml?ID=1142033016#BMIreference) to find out what that means.

WARNING: The figures below represent just one possible
typical outcome. Everyone's journey through bariatric
surgery is unique. There are no guarantees.


Key:http://images.obesityhelp.com/images/redpixel.gif
- possible loss of 155 lbs after surgery http://images.obesityhelp.com/images/bluepixel.gif
- excess weight you might keep is 17 lbs http://images.obesityhelp.com/images/tealpixel.gif
- your ideal weight is 138 lbs

This all means that my weight would go like this:




Week 0 -- 310
Week 1 -- 279 (-31)
Week 2 -- 248 (-31)
Week 3 -- 233 (-15)
Week 4 -- 225 (-8)
Week 5 -- 217 (-8)
Week 6 -- 209 (-8)


Week 7 -- 202 (-7)
Week 8 -- 194 (-8)
Week 9 -- 186 (-8)
Week 10 - 177 (-9)
Week 11 - 171 (-6)
Week 12 - 163 (-8)
Week 13 - 158 (-5)
Week 14 - 155 (-3)

CAN THIS BE??????????????????????????????????????????????? :wacko: :eek: :wacko:

Possible Weight Loss is shown on attached chart:

[Kat817]

Definitely seems a bit unrealistic!!! Not the amount of weight lost, I fully believe that to be possible, but the time line is not very accurate. 31 pounds in a week? 62 in 2 weeks time?? Heck I feel succesful in a MAJOR way, and I am at 74 pounds in 7 months! It is more weight than I have ever lost and not struggled with...and I feel in control now. I highly suggest the surgery, and I feel the weight I have lost to be a great accomplishment. And I really don't mean to "burst your bubble" but please continue to read, and continue to realize that "if it is too good to be true....it likely is not true". You have the right mind set to question this. That means you are looking at the band realistically...good for you!!!
I wish we could all lose as quickly as that, although it doesn't seem to healthy. 1-2 pounds a week is the recommended weight loss.
Good Luck on your upcoming surgery!!!
Kat

[Stitchy]

Ummm - I may be looking at this wrong, but it looks to me like they said 12 to 15 months, not weeks.




Your BMI and Goal Weight Results

Typically bariatric surgery patients lose this amount over the course of 12 to 15
months, with slight fluctuations and possibly slight regain after that. Below is a
graph of how your weight might change after surgery.

Key:http://images.obesityhelp.com/images/redpixel.gif
- possible loss of 155 lbs after surgery http://images.obesityhelp.com/images/bluepixel.gif
- excess weight you might keep is 17 lbs http://images.obesityhelp.com/images/tealpixel.gif
- your ideal weight is 138 lbs

This all means that my weight would go like this:




Week 0 -- 310
Week 1 -- 279 (-31)
Week 2 -- 248 (-31)
Week 3 -- 233 (-15)
Week 4 -- 225 (-8)
Week 5 -- 217 (-8)
Week 6 -- 209 (-8)


Week 7 -- 202 (-7)
Week 8 -- 194 (-8)
Week 9 -- 186 (-8)
Week 10 - 177 (-9)
Week 11 - 171 (-6)
Week 12 - 163 (-8)
Week 13 - 158 (-5)
Week 14 - 155 (-3)

CAN THIS BE??????????????????????????????????????????????? :wacko: :eek: :wacko:

Possible Weight Loss is shown on attached chart:

[Jachut]

90% is a bit optimistic for bariatric surgery, dont they usually say more like half to 2/3 of your excess weight?

However, that does NOT mean that its not reasonable and entirely possible to lose more than that and many people do, bear in mind that half to 2/3 figure is statistically derived and takes into account people that lose nothing, people that lose less than expected, people that have problems, people that lose their lap bands or have another surgery, etc etc etc. Its quite reasonable to expect to get close to your healthy weight range and many people achieve that.

I think its jsut the timeline that's a bit skewed. A year to lose 155lb is pretty darn quick, I wouldnt hold my breath and expect to achieve that. What is more thank likely to happen is you will lose a huge amount very quickly and then will settle down to a 1 to 2lb loss per week, or even less, but slowly and surely it does come off.

I only had about 80lb to lose and that's going to take me well over a year to achieve. AND I've run and run and run my legs off to get the weight off, and been pretty much a model patient according to my doc.

["Just Jess"]

whoops - obvious typo --- that chart was BY MONTH not week...
but thanks for all your imput. looking at it again, it could very well be gastric bypass patients as well. my doc has both lap-band and gastic-bypass on his webpage.

thanks again!

[JoyceGA]

From those I have watched, it takes about two years to reach goal -- depending on how much you have to lose.

I'm aiming for 100 lbs a year. I started on March 18, 2006 at 450. I'm already down to 363, and by March 2007 I plan to be 300.

Jess, think slow and steady.

[HeatherGurl]

From what I have read about WLS, the expected amount of excess weight you are to lose is 65%. That's the number I remember seeing. Whether that is for lap band or bypass also, I do not know.
Good luck to you girl!

["Just Jess"]

That's awesome!!! Good for you! CONGRATS!!! I am open to any suggestions you have! :)



From those I have watched, it takes about two years to reach goal -- depending on how much you have to lose.

I'm aiming for 100 lbs a year. I started on March 18, 2006 at 450. I'm already down to 363, and by March 2007 I plan to be 300.

Jess, think slow and steady.

["Just Jess"]

hey, 65% is not something I could complain about... BUUUUUUUUUUT I like 80% a lot more!!!!!! :eek:



From what I have read about WLS, the expected amount of excess weight you are to lose is 65%. That's the number I remember seeing. Whether that is for lap band or bypass also, I do not know.
Good luck to you girl!

[PhotoNut]

I believe that fantastic weightloss can be expected but everyone MUST realize that the band alone will not achieve this for you. It does require some self control because there are foods which will pass right through that puppy with very little trouble. It also takes self control to keep your level of restriciton at an appropriate amount. Too little and you can continue to overeat, slowing the progress of your weightloss or even causing gains. Too much restriction can also lead to a slow down in progress because people tend to depend on high calorie liquids and soft foods that they can actually get past an overtight band.

Also keep in mind that while we all wish we could wake up tomorrow and see a loss of 30 pounds, what that means realistically is a ton of loose, baggy, saggy, wrinkly ugly flesh! eep! An average weightloss of 1-2 pounds per week is a healthy amount that also gives time for your skin to adjust to the changes in your body. Also keep in mind that people who lose that much that quickly are most likely losing muscle mass and not fat. Yes, there is such a thing as a skinny fat person who is as unhealthy as a fat fat person.

This past year Ive seen a loss off 100 pounds. Could I have done better had I continued to follow the bandster rules? Oh yes! Could I have done worse? Definitely. But could I have lost 100 pounds without my band? Well, my history of obesity says NO. So, be excited. Be hopeful. Be determined. But be realistic about your goals. And always remember that we are all individuals with very different bodies that will progress at different rates of speed. But overall, we can see that the band does work for those who work it.

["Just Jess"]

Thanks for your support!!! I know this is not a magical cure - much like anything else I've tried in my life. But I just wanted to know what a realistic goal would look like. I want to weigh 165 lbs. I am currently 310ish. That means I need to lose 145 lbs. Can it be??? That is a person! Many of my friends don't even weigh that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




I believe that fantastic weightloss can be expected but everyone MUST realize that the band alone will not achieve this for you. It does require some self control because there are foods which will pass right through that puppy with very little trouble. It also takes self control to keep your level of restriciton at an appropriate amount. Too little and you can continue to overeat, slowing the progress of your weightloss or even causing gains. Too much restriction can also lead to a slow down in progress because people tend to depend on high calorie liquids and soft foods that they can actually get past an overtight band.

Also keep in mind that while we all wish we could wake up tomorrow and see a loss of 30 pounds, what that means realistically is a ton of loose, baggy, saggy, wrinkly ugly flesh! eep! An average weightloss of 1-2 pounds per week is a healthy amount that also gives time for your skin to adjust to the changes in your body. Also keep in mind that people who lose that much that quickly are most likely losing muscle mass and not fat. Yes, there is such a thing as a skinny fat person who is as unhealthy as a fat fat person.

This past year Ive seen a loss off 100 pounds. Could I have done better had I continued to follow the bandster rules? Oh yes! Could I have done worse? Definitely. But could I have lost 100 pounds without my band? Well, my history of obesity says NO. So, be excited. Be hopeful. Be determined. But be realistic about your goals. And always remember that we are all individuals with very different bodies that will progress at different rates of speed. But overall, we can see that the band does work for those who work it.

[chrispygal]

Wow Jess - just five days until surgery! You must be excited!!!! I definitely think the weight loss is achievable. You will have to work for it, but I think you will definitely be able to do it! You are doing all the right things pre-band, and learning as much as you can. I can't wait to see your progression!

["Just Jess"]

SO excited.. yes! But I have to admit, the nerves are starting to set in as well...

[PhotoNut]

Ok, Jess. Have you seen the two sticky threads in the Preparing for Surgery forum? If not, go check them out!

Bandland is just around the corner! Woohoo! Are you prepared?